We split another episode into two, which seems to be serving the 87 year old Bertie May very well, thank you. Plus, some events either lose steam as you try to stretch them over an entire episode, or Ma has found them a bit gruesome to riff upon. Like some of the other date specific topics we considered.
Robert Durst Is Finally Convicted.
The Bus Crash That Created Frida Kahlo.
The First Fatal Airplane Crash.
“Well, he went up, Ma. Then the propeller broke, and he came down. Violently. They had to pull the black box from his scrotum!”
We discussed Vanessa. She broke the mold, which a lot of people were pissed about. “We want our Miss America to be virginal white. And you, madame, are not only not white, you are a whore!” It was incredibly harsh for the first Black winner, especially considering her entrance into any pageant was done as a means to an end.
There was money involved, and Miss Williams was an excellent student, in a dorm, holding a packet of Top Ramen, and thinking, “Have you heard me talk? Have you seen my body? This will be easy money.”
We also discovered the cynic that was William Golding. A survivior of World War II, deeply affected by the horrors of mankind. He wrote a book where innocent human children morph into oppressive, violent animals. Because that’s what humans do.
We also find out his book was thrown on the shit pile. Litterally. Well, not literraly a pile of poop, but it was destinned for the toilet paper factory. Then, some broke lower level publisher who couldn’t afford his own books, grabbed it to read while he was on the shitter. Now, massive generations of students have their own copy sitting on the commode, right above their ballcock.
Which leads us to this weeks question:
“Where do you defecate?”
Convos With Ma is an audio only podcast. Take us with you on your commute, to the gym, while you scrub the callouses from your lover’s feet. There is no video element to the show, but for your convenience, we have uploaded our convo to YouTube as well.


